Is Chivalry Sexist?

A male blogger named Anthony Michael Rojas posted a little list entitled, “How To Treat A Woman On A Date: The Basics” on his Tumbler blog recently and it got quite a few angry reblogs from women who felt like his suggestions were sexist. Rojas clearly believe his suggestions to be basic “chivalry,” while his detractors seemed to suggest that there is a difference between chivalry and manners, because chivalry is rooted in sexism.

I found many of the responses to not only be silly, but also bordering on unintentionally satirical of “feminist” anger. It was clear to me that the original poster wasn’t being a jerk, so why did the responses treat him like one? Still, the back-and-forth did bring up the issue of whether these eight seemingly harmless gestures are actually offensive because they are supposedly treat women as the weaker sex. Let’s go through them one by one, shall we? (See blog post here.)

#1. Do not let more than one day go by without contacting her.
I think Rojas’ point was that if a guy enjoyed his date with a woman, he should get back in touch with her sooner rather than later to demonstrate that he had a good time and, in theory, would like to go out with her again. Now, I have always been a proponent of women doing the same and not playing coy about expressing that they like someone, had a good time with them, and want to go out again—would this tip have appeared on his list of “How To Treat A Man On A Date?” Who knows. It would appear on mine. Reblogger “placeholdertext” wrote, “Stalker much?” which seems like a hypocritical response, considering that’s the sort of retort a sexist men’s rag might throw out in reference to a woman showing “too much” interest.

#2. Be On Time.
Pure politeness that applies to all situations and both men and women—I don’t think he was implying otherwise by including it on his list and none of the rebloggers had a bone to pick about this one.

#3, 4, 5 and 6. Open her car door, help her put her coat on, hold the door open for her, and pull her chair out.
These seemed to particularly infuriate the rebloggers because these actions could, in theory, imply that the woman needs assistance and cannot do them on her own, as if she’s weak or childlike. One reblogger wrote, “Treat me like a human being, not a pet,” while another said, “I can dress myself too, I’m a big girl now!”

Is the assumption that if a guy does these things, that he’s going to treat you badly and that the relationship itself won’t be based on equality? For a couple to be equal, does that mean everything each of them does for the other has to be reciprocated, exactly? My question to these women is, if a guy pulled out your chair for you, helped put on your coat, or opened the door, would you refuse? And when the check comes, do you always split or alternate who pays? How equally do you conduct your relationships?

#7. Order for her. (This does not mean tell her what she’s going to have for dinner. Have a conversation about what she wants and then when the waiter comes, order for her.)
This tip is definitely potentially problematic and antiquated, not to mention over the top. My advice to any guy who would like to order on my behalf? Ask if it’s cool with me, i.e. “Do you mind if I give the waiter our orders?” When I’m out to dinner with friends, it can often be more convenient for one person to relay the entire order. When I would go out to dinner with my ex, sometimes he would do the ordering, other times I would, especially if we were going to share. However, ordering for her without her saying it’s okay takes away her opportunity to ask the waiter questions or make special requests.

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09.23.2009
Glynis B
I don't think courtesy and kindness ever goes out of style. I will hold the door open for the person behind me as an act of courtesy. My dad has always held the door open for people, my grandpa did it and my husband does it. I will help someone put on their coat if it seems appropriate and friends and family have helped me put on my coat. I know no male in my office would ask me to fetch them a cup of coffee. They have brought me a cup of coffee after asking if I would like one or I have asked them if they'd like a cup, but we would do that for anyone, male or female.
09.09.2009
Vic De Zen
I'm kind of at a loss as to how any of this can be taken as anything but decent and/or chivalrous. Sexist?? I think people are reading way too much into this. It's about being polite and having the common sense to look out for your dates/significant other's well being.
08.25.2009
melanie younger
i think that courtesy is key, more than chivalry. that said, any of the above "chivalrous" actions can be conducted in a courteous or in a condescending manner. as with anything, intention is the important quality to examine. personally, i am the sort of person who prefers to order for myself at a restaurant. however, i like having doors opened for me and the assurance that anyone (date or otherwise) will wait until i'm safely indoors before driving away. i think that striking a balance between independence and being treated "like a lady" is important. but first and foremost self-respect is key. in the words of eleanor roosevelt, "no one can make you fee inferior without your consent." knowing your what's comfortable to you on a date can be key in teaching others how to treat you.
08.24.2009
Jollyegirl
I, as a female, will wait when I drop anyone off at their front door to be sure that they get in safely. As for how I would react if someone did come out of the bushes, I don't know. I don't carry a gun in my car although that is soon to change because I will be registered to carry a concealed weapon. As for these idiot women that don't know politeness from sexism...get a life, you're making the rest of us look bad!!!!
08.23.2009
Patrice Johnson
both of my parents taught me #8 as well, especially since I played sports and we would drop off my friends around midnight. If we did'nt tons of my friends would've been siting outside there house until someone came home or until (god forbid)something bad would happen. the same for #7 except the one who was paying for the meal would discuss what everyone wanted before the waiter came then would order for everyone, and if they changed there mind when the waiter came they could speak for them self.
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